So very much of what we watch online regarding spanking videos tends to stray pretty far from reality. As with the post below, I wanted to explore what really happens behind closed doors when an angry mom decides that her teen daughter needs a spanking. I think the audio recording of very real strapping, below, demonstrates what typically takes place. We start off with a mom, trying to maintain her composure, but has decided that her daughter needs to be spanked. In this case, the young lady was suspended from school but decided not to tell her mom that was the case. She gets dressed like any other morning, like she is going to go to school, but before she is able to get out the door, her mom sees the notice from school that her daughter was suspended. At this point she is dealing with two separate issues, that of her daughter being in trouble at school, and then her trying to cover it up. She is understandably upset, so for this spanking she requires her daughter to pull down her pants and panties and lay over the bed. There is no stripping naked which is common is many spanking videos, she is not required to bend over and grab her ankles, her mom simply has her lay down in a position that allows her to strap her bare butt. There is not a lot of delay and her mom gets right to it with the belt. You can tell from the sound of the strokes that it is a hard strapping from the very beginning and the girl clearly reacts. She does not hold perfectly still and has to be reminded a couple of times by her mom to get her hands and feet out of the way. From a strapping of this intensity that is perfectly natural as it would be hard to hold still. Her mom lectures her throughout the strapping but does not do the goofy punctuating each word with each stroke. She is clearly pissed and what she is telling her daughter is seems perfectly reasonable.
What I think is most important about listening to this strapping is how hard it is, how the girl reacts, and how long it lasts. From the very first stroke the girl has a verbal reaction. From the sound of the leather belt on her bare ass, it seems like a very reasonable reaction. But after just ten strokes, the little grunts of pain, quickly transition, to very real tears. A proper spanking of a teen girl, from an angry mom with a heavy leather belt really does not take that long to get the desired results. Unlike the world of spanking videos in which you rarely see tears or hear real crying, or when you do get to tears the spanking stops, when this girl begins to cry her mom just keeps spanking harder. I think this is pretty common when a mom spanks her teen daughter, she is not just looking for a few tears, she wants to see actual crying. But this girl just keeps crying harder, and you can hear her start to become breathless, with long pauses in the crying as she gasps for air. But we don’t just get the little yelps of pain and then crying, as it intensifies, it leads to full on bawling like a baby. When the mom finally does stop after just over 30 strokes with the belt, the crying does not stop. This is because this is a real punishment, her butt is on fire, and the pain will continue to bother her for quite some time. Based on what we know about the infraction, the overall punishment seems fair to me. A teenage girl getting in trouble at school, enough so that she is hiding it from her parents, and then trying to just pretend to go to school, I think a belt to her bare bottom, even as a high school aged girl is fair. The strapping was done forcefully, but there was nothing in it that made it sound abusive. The mother was angry, but controlled her temper, and while mad, she did not really talk down to her daughter or treat her disrespectfully. I do not think it really should be measured by the amount of strokes, as it takes different amounts for different girls. It should be measured my the results and I think that it was taken to the place required for learning to take place. She did not just suck it up and grunt her way through it, she was clearly in pain. Her bottom was blistered long enough and hard enough to get her crying like a little girl in trouble, which should always be the goal of any spanking. Well deserved, the proper punishment for the infraction, and the right amount of pain to teach a long term lesson. A job well done.
Probably the most used implement for blistering a young lady’s bottom is dad’s leather belt. This mostly has to do with availability and effectiveness. Just about every home in the US has a men’s leather belt in it. It might be as simple as a thin little dress belt for the white collar father’s suit, or for the less fortunate daughters in the country, a very heavy Western style belt. While thicker and wider belts are clearly the most effective, just about any belt is enough to get the job done, especially when applied to a young lady’s bare bottom.
One sister gets a severe bare bottom strapping with dad’s belt, while the other waits her turn.
A belt is not always as effective as a paddle in creating long term discomfort, as it does not tend leave as deep and long lasting bruising. However, when it comes to simply setting a teen girl’s bottom on fire, it has very few equals. A hard paddling tends to quickly numb a girl’s bottom, and while her bottom might be sore for days, some of the effectiveness of the overall lesson decreases during the paddling. But with a belt, she will feel the burning to her bottom from the beginning to the end, without her bottom ever becoming numb.
The look on her face shows that dad’s belt is helping her to learn the lesson she not only requires, but has earned.
A heavy belt can still be quite effective when applied over clothing, allowing a parent the ability to apply a spontaneous strapping, regardless of the situation or who is present. The belt is also quite convenient as most parents do not go throughout their day carrying a paddle with them, but a belt is always within reach. For those times when a spanking just cannot wait until they get home, the belt allows a dad to find a semi private spot and to blister his daughter’s bottom on the spot.
Dad always has his belt handy and will strap his daughter’s bottom whenever it is required.
The belt is indeed most effective when applied to a teen girl’s bare bottom, as the more sting that she feels, the better the chance of her learning. A belt is really one of the best implements for using for a hard bare bottom punishment, as it does very little damage to the skin and simply provides as much sting as required. With a paddle, a young lady’s bottom may be completely worn out, with fear of the skin breaking after as few as a dozen swats, but with the belt, a much longer spanking can indeed take place. There are those times that a spanking may need to last five minutes or longer, to assure a lesson is learned, and with a belt there really is no limit as to the number of strokes that can be applied. This really allows the severity to be easily scaled to fit any situation. If she just needs a quick strapping to get her attention for some minor infraction, then a quick dozen will get her attention. But on those occasions when maximum severity is required, her bare bottom can just be strapped until it is clear the job is done.
Her bare bottom is going to continue to be strapped until her mom sees the change in attitude that she is looking for.
Consider the girl below and the ongoing issue her dad has with her cell phone. She has the latest and greatest smart phone, which he pays for, and it seems she is always on it, texting or talking, 24 hours a day. However, when he tries to get a hold of her, she never seems to be around to answer it, or respond to his texts to her. She always blames it on a dead battery or something else, so he bought her chargers for her car, her room, and whenever else she needs them. She also has the annoying habit of stealing his charger, which he can never find as a result. Finally one day he had enough, after not being able to get a hold of her for more than five hours. When he came home from work, he saw that not only was her phone working, but she was actively using it as he walked in the door. He does not care that she is now 18, or that she has not been spanked in a couple of years, as on this day she has earned herself the spanking of her life. The ottoman is pulled to the middle of the room, she is made to drop her pants and panties to her ankles, and he gets to work with the belt. There is no set number of strokes she is to receive, or a set time period that he is going to blister her bottom. Instead, he straps her bare bottom with his heavy belt until he is fully convinced that the cell phone issues will never occur again. It is not a quick process and he continues until her bottom is black and blue and the tears are flowing as hard as they ever have from a spanking. On this day, the not only punished her for her behavior, it corrects all future instances of it occurring again.
There are those times that dad must apply the spanking of her life, and this is one of those times.
There are also some girls that a belt to their bottom is just a fact of life and it happens as often as it is required. The young lady below made the mistake of making a bit of a smart remark to her parents while at the dinner table. There is no anger, there is no yelling, and her mom just tells her that she will get a session with the belt before she goes to bed. The rest of the evening goes just as any other evening would. Chores are taken care of, homework is completed, and they even watch a little TV as a family, without another word being said about the previous incident. The girl heads to her room to get ready for bed, changes into her pajamas, brushes her teeth, and does a little reading before her bedtime. Before her bedtime her mom comes to her room with the belt and has her bare her bottom and roll over on the bed and lay over her pillow. It was a small offense, but this mom has a zero tolerance policy, so she gives her daughter’s bottom the blistering it requires.
Mom takes the belt to her teen daughter’s bottom before bed.
There are some parents, just out of courtesy and to allow their daughters a little modesty, that never spank on the bare bottom. This does make the job of properly punishing a naughty teen girl a little more difficult with a belt. But with the proper belt selection and a little more work, the job can indeed be done in an effective manner. The dad below has a special belt that he uses only for spanking his daughter and it is one that works well even over her jeans and panties. As you can see, he does not just swing the belt with his arm, but rather he puts his whole entire body behind each and every swing. Her lack of movement is not a result of her not experiencing intense pain, she simply knows from experience that if she moves even a little bit out of position, that he will add another ten strokes. She wants this to be over as soon as possible, so she complies to the best of her ability.
Dad puts everything into it when spanking his older teen daughter with a belt.
The girl below is one that lives in a household in which mom sentences the punishments, but dad carries them out. When she finds herself in trouble with her mom, she has to wait until dad gets home to find out exactly how bad her whuppin is going to be. She will have to sit and listen as her parents discuss her behavior, with her rarely having a say at all in the conversation. Eventually her mom will basically order a spanking and tell her dad exactly how bad it should be. It can vary from “you need to teach her a bit of a lesson” to “I believe she needs the whuppin of her life”. There are times when her dad barely even knows what she did wrong, but he trusts his wife’s judgment and always gives exactly what was sentenced. The next step is for her to go into her dad’s study, bare her bottom, and bend over and place her hands on the wall. Her tight little teen butt will then get anywhere from 20 to 50 strokes with her dad’s heavy belt, and she will be in tears after just a few.
A hard bare bottom whoopin from dad for the teen girl
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One of the most essential parts of a proper spanking for a teenage girl by her parents is her presenting her bottom to be spanked. She is no longer a little girl and no one should have to hold her in place for her spanking. The spanking is being given to her for her own good, it is for her benefit, so there is no reason that she should not be required to cooperate for the duration of her punishment. But more importantly, she needs to willingly present her bottom to be spanked. A parent should not be required to raise their voice, or threaten additional spanking; it should be as simple as her being told to bare her bottom, and for her to assume the position that is required. This is such an important part of the process as it demonstrates that she is willingly accepting the consequences that her behavior created. She should realize that her actions were inappropriate and she should also realize that it is her parent’s job to make sure that the appropriate punishment is given for her actions. This is her spanking, she earned it, and she should see to it that she assists in any way possible. By lowering her pants and panties and bending over, presenting her bottom to be punished, she is indeed acknowledging that she is in the wrong. As much as she knows how much it is going to hurt, she makes her bottom available for whatever her parent feels will be the most effective in teaching her a lesson.
As bad as she knows it is going to be, she turns around and presents her little bottom so her dad can paddle it.
It is not an easy task for a 16-18 year old girl to present her bottom for a spanking. She probably feels that she is too old, at this age, to even be spanked in the first place. Not since she was a little girl was anyone allowed to see any part of her body without clothes. She does not want her mom or dad to see her naked below the waist. The act of presenting her bottom is highly embarrassing, but does further establish to her that her parents are still in charge. Not only can they require her to lower her pants and panties, they can also require her to place her bare bottom in the very best position that will allow them to apply as much pain as possible to it.
Take for instance the girl below. Her parents have been quite unhappy with her behavior for several weeks and they have finally had enough. Her actions on this day were the final straw and both parents agree that it is time that she gets a hard, bare bottom strapping, from dad’s belt. It is clear from the look on her face that she is not at all thrilled by this idea, but deep down inside, she knows she deserves it. She is not sent to her room, her strapping is not going to take place in private, she is going to get it right there in the kitchen, and mom is also going to watch the whole thing. The last thing in the world she wants is to bare her bottom, grab her ankles, and let her dad strap her until she cries, but that is exactly what she is doing. Her behavior requires her bottom to be in the air waiting for pain to be liberally applied to it.
She is required to present her bare bottom, right there in the kitchen, for a long and hard punishment with dad’s belt.
Her bottom is properly presented, while her mom watches her teen bottom get strapped.
In the next photo we have a family meeting in progress. The parents sit down with both of their daughters and are discussing recent behavior that has become a very real issue. One sister is lucky and gets off with just a warning, as her behavior does not require a spanking at the moment, but the other sister is not so lucky. Her mom is completely fed up and not only decides that she needs to be spanked, but it needs to happen at this very moment. She also feels it will be good for her other daughter to be present, to watch the entire spanking, as it will serve as a good warning to her as to what will happen if she does not get her act together soon. Mom goes and grabs the largest wooden spoon she own and then the next step takes place, the presenting of the bottom. Her mom tells her to bare her butt and to bend over the arm of the couch for her spanking. She pulls her jeans down as requested, but she is hesitant to pull down her panties with her sister and dad present. With the big spoon in her hand, her mom only has to give her a bit of a look and a gesture with the spoon and the panties go right down. While reluctant to do so, she bends over the arm of the couch and presents her bottom for what she knows will be a long and hard session with the spoon. She knows that her bottom will be black and blue when mom is done with her, but she submits as she knows she deserves it.
She slowly lowers her pants and her panties and presents her bottom for what she knows is going to be an intense spanking with a wooden spoon from her mother.
During the next family meeting the other sister is not so lucky, as over the course of this conversation it becomes clear to both of the sisters that this is not going to end well. What makes it even more difficult this time, it that dad will be doing the spanking. A session with the spoon from their mom is never easy to endure, but when their mom starts talking about dad’s belt, they know they are really in for it. Mom is the primary disciplinarian, so when she gets dad involved with the spanking, she only does so when she wants their bottoms tore up like there is no tomorrow. The conversation eventually leads to where they know it will and mom is done with the lecture. She tells her oldest daughter to stand up, turn around, and to bare her bottom. As hard as it is to present their bottoms for a spanking with the spoon from mom, it is much harder to do so for dad’s belt. The only thing worse than having to present their bare bottoms, are the consequences for not doing so, so both girls comply with mom’s request. The oldest sister steps into the middle of the room, unsnaps her jeans, and lowers them and her panties to her knees. She then bends over and places her hands on her knees and presents her tiny little teen bottom for the lesson it deserves. Over the next ten minutes, both sisters have their bottoms thoroughly blistered until mom thinks that they both have had enough.
Presenting her bare bottom for a strapping from dad while her sister waits her turn.
After watching her sister getting her bottom blistered with the belt, it is time for her to present her bottom for the same.
Her beautiful young bottom is presented in a manner that will allow her dad to teach her a very real lesson with his belt.
But if you think it is hard for the teen girl to properly present her bottom to be spanked with a wooden spoon or a belt, you can only imagine how hard it is for the two cousins below. They are the very best of friends and often stay at each other’s houses. Their dads both grew up in the same home, one in which corporal punishment was utilized often, and as a result, neither girl is a stranger to get her bottom spanked. While not all the common, when the moment requires it, both girls have also been spanked by their uncles. On this particular night, after a day of shopping at the mall, in which they both bought goofy matching pajamas, they decided to have themselves a bit of a slumber party, where they managed to stay up a little too late and make a little too much noise. After several warnings from Abby’s dad, he finally had enough of their disrespect and disregard of his warnings. They both knew from experience that there were very few things that hurt as much as a hard paddling from Abby’s dad and on this particular evening, he was going to make sure that they did not need another spanking for a very long time.
After a little corner time, it is time to present her bottom for a paddling from her dad.
They never considered when they bought their silly little drop seat pajamas that day, that they would prove to be more than useful for a good old fashioned paddling. He had them both open the backs of their pajamas and put them in corner time, with their bare bottoms on display, while he went and got his wooden paddle from Abby’s bedroom. When it came time for her paddling, it was quite difficult for Abby to present her bare butt for her punishment. She knew from experience that that paddle was brutal, even over jeans, and the thought of it on her bare bottom was not a pleasant one. Her cousin was left in corner time as Abby was told to bend over and to present her bottom. She stepped away from the wall, moved in front of the TV in which they had been playing video games on, and reluctantly presented her bare bottom, sticking out of her new pajamas. She reached down and grabbed her knees, knowing exactly what was coming next. It was hard to leave her bottom there, in the perfect position for him to paddle her until she was black and blue. He never spanked her until she was pink, and as she sat there with her bottom ready to be disciplined, she considered how bad it was going to hurt to sit down for the next week. As her dad got started, properly bruising her well-presented bottom, her cousin could only listen, knowing that her little butt was next.
She barely manages to keep her bottom properly presented as he paddles her black and blue.
There are also those parents that are in no hurry to begin the punishment once their daughter’s bottom is properly presented for a good spanking. The dad below is clearly one who believes this is the most effective way to handle things. After he sends her to get the paddle, she is required to bare her bottom, lie over the arm of the couch, and present her bottom to be paddled. But he wants her to have time to consider not only what she has done, but what exactly is going to happen as a result. He is in no hurry at all and prefers to watch the rest of the show on TV before getting around to paddling her teen ass. Her bare bottom is simply there, in the perfect position for him to teach her a lesson, but has to wait in anticipation for it to happen. Her whole world at the moment is all about her bare bottom simply waiting to be paddled. She is able to see the paddle next to him and all she can think about is how much it hurts. She considered how many she will get, how long she will be able to hold out until she cries, and for how many days she will be sore. She wants to run away, but she cannot, all she can do is wait, with her bottom properly presented for the spanking she has earned and very much deserves.
She presents her bottom to be paddled, but dad makes her wait for several minutes before her punishment begins
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The results of a paddling she will remember for a long time.
There are many parents out there that feel that the only proper spanking is one that is delivered severely. It can be for the smallest infraction, but they still feel that if a spanking has been earned, that it needs to be applied in the hardest manner possible. You typically find this kind of strictness and severity in homes in which there is a heavy religious influence. There is the standard Bible quote that is the go to for many strict parents:
“He that spareth his rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him chasteneth him betimes.”
This is their justification for spanking in the 1st place, but the quote that is often interpreted as spanking needs to be administered severely is:
“ Withhold not correction from the child: for [if] thou beatest him with the rod, he shall not die.”
Within these homes, young ladies tend to be very well behaved as they know the consequences of their actions will lead to very real
It takes her mom quite awhile to achieve these results, but they result in learning.
and long lasting pain to their bottom. I have read interviews with girls who grew up in very conservative Christian homes, in which every time they were spanked, it continued until they stopped crying altogether. Their parents felt that crying during a spanking was a sign of willfulness, and that a spanking was not over until that willfulness is gone. I also once read an interview with a young woman who had left the Amish community and she gave much detail about the spanking she received at the hands of her mother. She was always punished with a heavy leather strap, in the privacy of her room, with her dress up and her undergarments down, while laying over the edge of the bed. Her mom always strapped her until she stopped crying, but the main problem was that this took a very long time. She went on to give details in which the whole process could go on for well over 20 minutes, and her mom spanked her so hard with the strap, that she often tired out before she could achieve the results she was looking for, leading to her mom having to take many breaks during the strapping.
While not every parent spanks with the goal for the actual crying to stop during the spanking, the strictest of parents, are indeed spanking with the goal of a permanent change of behavior in their teen girl. A hard spanking is generally applied as a result a teen girl’s bad behavior, and is simply a punishment for those actions. But for the more severe offenses, strict parents are not only spanking as a punishment for what they did, but they are trying to address this behavior in the future. This is where the whole concept of long term learning comes into play. Their goal is not for her to just be sorry for what she did, but for the spanking to be severe enough that it affects her thinking process every time she is faced with a decision of right and wrong in the future.
For many teen girls, a bottom bruised this badly is just the norm for them.
This is really only accomplished with a severe enough spanking that she spends close to week with a sore bottom. Teen girls are resilient and a quick spanking from mom or dad can quickly fade from their memories, which once again leads to clouded judgment when faced with future questionable decisions. Maximum clarity is provided to the young lady with maximum soreness and bruising following a spanking. It easy for her to forget how much a two minute handspanking hurt at the time, but it is very hard to forget that severe spanking, with a belt, hairbrush, or paddle in which sitting was not possible for a couple of days, and still quite uncomfortable for close to a week. These are the types of punishment that help to change behavior, as they will never forget that week following that one severe spanking, for the rest of their lives. When it comes to spanking a teen girl, there is no doubt that bruises equal learning.
Many strict parents, for that one offense that the young lady commits that stand head and shoulders above the rest, as most of her
Her mom decides to use the switch on her bare bottom and thighs to teach her a lesson she will never forget.
spankings are already pretty severe, they might chose that moment to find a way to make sure that this one spanking really stands out. This may be the day that she realizes that her mom still has an old antique hairbrush stashed away in a box in the attic that needs to come out for a very severe punishment that leaves her bottom marked and sore in a manner she never knew before. Or maybe the frustrated parent recalls those summers on their grandparent’s farm, in which grandma always sent them for a switch to be used to stripe their bottom and thighs. For a young lady who is used to feeling the belt on a regular basis, the pure sting of a switch can really open her eyes and change her attitude. Some parents elect to simply double the length of a punishment for the more severe actions, but the very strict and creative parents, chose to add additional spankings after the initial spanking. In households this strict, it is not completely out of the question for a daily spanking to be awarded to the naughty young lady, for several days in a row.
The daily spanking is indeed one of the most effective ways to achieve results and
The results of a paddling over an already bruised bottom. She will be sleeping on her side for many days.
learning. Picture the teen girl, in the most trouble she has ever been in in her life, who is sent to her room, for a long session with dad’s paddle, and then told she will get it again, every morning, for the next three days. Each morning, with her muscles tight and sore from the previous paddling, she is woken up by her dad just before he heads out to work. With sleep still in her eyes, she roles out of bed, bares her bruised bottom, and once again is paddled. Nothing teaches a lesson as much as a hard paddling on a bruised bottom. Her bottom is already sore to the touch, sitting is difficult, and she has to sleep on her side, so the feel of the paddle becomes unbearable. By the fourth paddling, he is adding new bruises to already fading bruises, and when it comes to her learning, this is pretty much grad school. It may be harsh and severe, but it is the type of lesson which eliminates that particular bad behavior for the rest of her life. She can be a 40 year old women and she will still remember the offense that she committed, and the resulting punishment, that received when she was 18 years old.
Spanking of this severity are not the norm, but there are many high school age girls, walking down the hall of their school, with their bottoms bruised and sore as you read this. In their strict and religious home, severe corporal punishment is not the exception, it is the norm. Her parents, just like their parents, believe in the teachings of the Bible and they believe misbehavior should be dealt with in a strict and severe manner. They do not think that a spanking is over when their daughter starts to cry, they believe that that is simply a good start. A red bottom will never be enough for them when teaching a lesson, black and blue are the only colors they know. They know that after a spanking, if their daughter is able to sit down at the dinner table, then they have more work to do.
For some girls, severe discipline is a way of life and when they misbehave, their bottom pays the price.
It happens on many occasions, as the daughters go to bed, the parents catch up on their day. When a husband works long hours, it is often that only late at night does he and his wife get a chance to really talk. Eventually the discussion will shirt to that of their children, and it is often at these times that young ladies end up getting in trouble without even knowing it. The parents compare notes, discuss behaviors, and realize that things are not as they should be. One girl may be playing the parents off of each other, or telling one one thing, and the other something different. Sometimes this is how lies really come to the surface as the parents get the time to really talk about their kid’s behavior.
The “Family Meeting” results in both sisters getting bruised bottoms from dad’s paddle.
In other cases it might be the fact that the dad is the disciplinarian but works enough hours every week that he is not present when the misbehaviors occur. Vigilant moms will be sure to note each end every behavior to make sure there are indeed consequences for their daughter’s behaviors. There are many dads that would wake his girls up and take care of things on the spot, but it is much more common for this all to lead to the “family meeting”. There are many parents that meet with the girls every week to discuss behavior and the resulting consequences. There are many variations on the family meeting, but in homes where corporal punishment is utilized, the results are always a sore bottom for someone.
In the gallery below, brought to you by Realspankings.com, after these girl’s parents have a long talk the night before, the mother decides that the consequences cannot wait. While it has been discussed that her husband will give them each the bare bottom paddling of their lives, she is not content in only being a witness. She marches right into the girls bedroom and wakes them both up with a long and hard spanking with the wooden spoon. She wants their bottoms to be on fire prior to their paddling and she does exactly that. Poor KJ is actually woken up by the sounds of her sister getting spanked right there over her bed. Before she can wipe the sleep from her eyes, she finds herself on the receiving end of mom’s spoon.
Once their bottoms are properly burning, she marches them right down to the kitchen for a nice little surprise…dad has built them both their very own heavy wooden paddle. Right there, in the middle of the kitchen, each one is required to bare her bottom and take a severe paddling from their dad until their bottoms are bruised and the tears are flowing. This photo gallery is part of a four part video series in which the girls get their bottoms bruised and blistered in the member’s area of Realspankings.com
Waking up to the sounds of her sister getting a spanking from her mom.
The nighty comes up for a harder spanking
Time for the other sister to get her bottom beat with mom’s spoon
Her Pj’s are also lifted for her spanking
Time for a paddling from dad on her bare bottom
Her sister holds her hands in place while dad bruises her bottom
The learning is clear from her tiny bruised butt.
The older sister takes her turn with dad’s paddle
She is starting to learn her lesson
The older sister’s butt is black and blue from dad’s paddle
He swings the paddle hard to teach a real lesson
She tries to rub away the sting, but it will last for days